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Today's topics:

* ..My Stock Trading Performance so far this year - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/8bce6ae01b30d855?hl=en
* racist 0BAMA church -- -- daughters forced to hear - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/763a732677419454?hl=en
* George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/249451f3741e4bfe?hl=en
* (WWW.CN-CIRCLE.COM ) cheap wholesae GUCCI shoes, GUCCI handbags, Gucci
sunglasses, Gucci hats, Gucci watches, Gucci belt, Gucci tiffany,air RIFT
outlet shoes, and jeans, edhoodies, T-shirts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/dd01e3700c495e9a?hl=en
* Become king of money by woking in online data entry - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/d2c4c4dc82a602cd?hl=en
* Yahoo continues to show inability to serve cuistomers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/bc482cadcdd22262?hl=en
* how to earn through online - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/0595f63f6f8d0225?hl=en
* Look at this JOKE "struggle" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/e66cd4b5311d26bc?hl=en
* scam ''BSC'' - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/dbbbce90532a1323?hl=en
* riskier borrowers, low quality collateral concentrated on real estate,
questionable appraisals for market prices and "low, low rates". Is the Fed
turning itself into a sub-prime lender? If I were a bank examiner, I would
want to have a quiet word with Mr. Chairman about his lending practices - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/f3cb3d3bb10a0962?hl=en

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TOPIC: ..My Stock Trading Performance so far this year
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/8bce6ae01b30d855?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:50 am
From: "Bill Reid"

jonathan <maatschj@write.instead.net> wrote in message
news:3X%Dj.22125$dT.6748@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> "NewYorker" <newyorker777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9d51f$47e07a7e$4088c839$23797@EVERESTKC.NET...

> > Post them real-time here, I'd pay you.
>
> Down the road I just might post them, but once I do the
> patterns and system would become obvious to
> everyone. Maybe in a year or so.

Strange that with all the Ph.Ds and whatnot that have
been looking at stock price time seriesessess, everyone
doesn't ALREADY know what these "patterns" are, if
they are so friggin' "obvious"...

As a personal financial matter, you might consider
"selling out" NOW to a "New Yorker"...those guys are
idiots and they have a long history of buying ANYTHING
(for proof of this, just pick up today's paper, or
Google(TM) "Bear Stearns").

---
William Ernest Reid
Post count: 977

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TOPIC: racist 0BAMA church -- -- daughters forced to hear
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:05 am
From: "Eddie Haskell"

"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aa794604-66b9-4d9f-a49d-4e2d2738fed3@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 18, 4:15 pm, Obama Can <obama...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Obama has beaten Foxnews with a knockout punch.
>
> He has become invincible.
>
> Thanks, FoxNews.
>
> --
> - President Barack Obama -
>
> Get used to it.

> You wish.

He wishes for a racist anti-American for president because he is a racist
anti-American.

Case closed.

-Eddie Haskell

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:18 am
From: Doobie Keebler

On Mar 19, 10:05 am, "Eddie Haskell" <bd...@hshshs.com> wrote:

> He wishes for a racist anti-American for president because he is a racist
> anti-American.
>
> Case closed.
>
> -Eddie Haskell

Lot's of chatter floating about Obama.
But, just give him a listen:
http://tinyurl.com/2qorn9

You might also want to give John McCain a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I0UydaUcK0

Turn off your TV: fuck the pundits.
Listen to the candidates speak.

Do your own due diligence. Pay attention. Listen.

.
.d

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TOPIC: George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/249451f3741e4bfe?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:23 am
From: Fritz Wuehler

George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline

Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use.

The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.....
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Border....
When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some
ammo and ship him to Iraq ... Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the mil itary....
Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....
After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country..... He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.....
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. ....
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.....
Problem solved.....

If you think this is a good solution to both the problems, forward it to your friends.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:34 am
From: Ted

On Mar 19, 8:23 am, Fritz Wuehler
<fr...@spamexpire-200803.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline
>
> Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use.
>
> The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!
> That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.....
> Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Border....
> When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some
> ammo and ship him to Iraq ... Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the mil itary....
> Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....
> After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country..... He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.....
> This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. ....
> If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.....
> Problem solved.....
>
> If you think this is a good solution to both the problems, forward it to your friends.

There are between 20 and 30 million illegals in America. An economic
boom of unprecedented
magnitude would result from their deportation.

ted

http://www.newnation.org/

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TOPIC: Yahoo continues to show inability to serve cuistomers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:01 am
From: "Homeless"

It's obviously all about the money, because they don't give a shit about
customers.
Report TOS violations and they delete your account.
They give you no one to report the situation upwards to, and just
continually resend the same biole plate response.

They got that idea from the crimina hedge funds that pay them to spam their
Finance message booards with lies all day.

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TOPIC: Look at this JOKE "struggle"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:29 am
From: aeronaut@flight.net

Gee, sure didn't "struggle" yesterday.....Intraday miracle "rallies"
continue to save 100's and 100's of points in losses from this
fraudulent friggin' JOKE you call a "market," while it soars unabated
during it's fraudulent, laughable "rallies"...

Total friggin' JOKE.......

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TOPIC: scam ''BSC''
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:23 am
From: bob36swmla@webtv.net (bob wald)

buffett, uunn when a broker sells your stock on a margin call. some1
''the broker maybe'' can buy your stocks 20c on the dollar.
wise up pal....margin is the biggest rip off i ever fell for...i've
lost more money by me answering margin calls late.some cases under 12
hrs late.
than you'll ever make in 1 yr of trading....
my views.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:27 am
From: bob36swmla@webtv.net (bob wald)

buffett, lol.... you know so lil about trading/life.
like most of you.......

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:25 am
From: bob36swmla@webtv.net (bob wald)

at market....lol. that means what ever they sell at.
50%, 70% or 20% of your stocks value...

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TOPIC: riskier borrowers, low quality collateral concentrated on real estate,
questionable appraisals for market prices and "low, low rates". Is the Fed
turning itself into a sub-prime lender? If I were a bank examiner, I would
want to have a quiet word with Mr. Chairman about his lending practices
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/f3cb3d3bb10a0962?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:35 am
From: Video61@tcq.net

there are two graphics in this article that are missing for obvious
reasons. if you find the article interesting, please click the link to
see the grappics.

http://www.suddendebt.blogspot.com/

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 19, 2008
The Fed As Bank

The Federal Reserve may be a central bank with special rights and
obligations, but in the end it, too, is a bank and has to be very
careful who it lends to and what kind of collateral it accepts in
exchange.

From a bank analyst perspective, during the last few months the Fed
has become increasingly more lax in its lending practices. It is
financing highly leveraged investment banks and brokers and accepting
a wide range of illiquid securities as collateral, particularly MBSs.

Let's look at the Fed's consolidated balance sheet (click to enlarge):

As of March 12, 2008 the Fed had almost $900 billion in assets, of
which $700 billion were in Treasury bills and notes and the rest in an
assortment of repos, the TAF facility, etc. The most recently
announced programs like the TSLF ($200 billion), the open-ended
discount window facility for investment banks/brokers and the $30
billion loan to Morgan (i.e. Bear's toxic assets) are not shown yet.

When those hit the books in the next few weeks, the asset mix will
change drastically. The Treasury holdings will go down and be replaced
by an assortment of GSE and private label securities. The Fed's risk
exposure will jump higher, and significantly so.

Like any other bank, the Fed does not have an unlimited amount of
money to lend - all it has is about $700 billion in Treasurys that it
can exchange for other, less marketable securities (and it has already
announced programs for a big part of that). In contrast, US home
mortgages alone amount to $10.5 trillion; if things keep unraveling,
the Fed's balance sheet will prove very small for the role it has now
chosen for itself.

As for the liability side, the Fed has issued about $800 billion of
its own Federal Reserve Notes, i.e. dollars. Our currency is thus
increasingly going to be backed by lower quality, riskier assets that
no one else wishes to buy or lend against, instead of Treasurys. In
effect, Mr. Bernanke is betting the farm on a quick real estate/
mortgage turnaround and a very shallow recession. Worse still, instead
of charging a higher interest rate for the loans made against the
riskier collateral, the Fed keeps cutting rates.

And just how sound is Mr. Bernanke's "bet the farm" wager on a quick
turnaround of the US real estate market? Judging from the following
chart, not very sound at all. Unlike previous real estate boom cycles
that lasted 2 to 4 years and peaked at 700-800.000 new homes sold per
year, the one now busting lasted 13 years and peaked in 2005 at
1.300.000 units. There has been a lot of housing demand satisfied for
many years to come and the downturn will not likely end soon.

Without Greenspan's negative real interest rates after 2000, the cycle
would have probably turned down (red line), avoiding the bubble of
2002-06. Based on this hypothesis, there have been almost 3 million
"extra" homes sold (black line minus red line), creating a fundamental
housing demand deficit that won't go away even if credit becomes cheap
again.

Let's summarize: riskier borrowers, low quality collateral
concentrated on real estate, questionable appraisals for market prices
and "low, low rates". Is the Fed turning itself into a sub-prime
lender? If I were a bank examiner, I would want to have a quiet word
with Mr. Chairman about his lending practices.

And if I were a shareholder or creditor of the Federal Reserve Bank
(remember what its liabilities are), I would be worried. As, indeed,
so many already are - they are those who are exchanging their dollars
for other currencies and commodities.

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เขียนโดย namphung ที่ 09:53 0 ความคิดเห็น

[ISG:94090] Re: How is our businesss doing?

I shared my experience a couple of days ago...and posting it again

I work for an Electronics design automation, MNC. They have a freeze on new hiring. And same is the case in entire semiconductor industry. But still we have special permission to hire in our team, so that we can capture this opportunity to hire the best in the industry. They offered 91% bonus this year (200% last and NIL before that). There have been no job cuts so far

Real estate prices here in Noida are going up every week or two. And people are actively purchasing multiple properties
I feel that there will be a hit in profit margins, but volumes should be up. And consumption will go up, coupled with standard of living. The budget has provided us with increased disposable incomes so that should account for slower earnings growth

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Diya <diiya.jk@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

I had this in my mind earlier but thought I will mail it out today after sharestarji shared with us his experience in his won business performance in another thread. I am starting a new thread so that there is we can discuss this topic afresh.

Thank you sharestarji for the excellent information. It is nice to see people share their personal experience in the market to get a real picture. There are "analysts" all over the place manufacturing report after report everyday. Many of them, I feel, are skewed towards their personal interest. I think the best barometer of the economy as a whole can be understood better from feeling and the perception of people like us who has to deal with the world.

I urge members to share thier personal experience in the market place where they operate - if they are self employed, how thier business is doing of late comapred to a year or 2 ago. If they are employed with someone, please share with the group how you feel your employers are doing in their business. Also please share with the group your perception of the next couple of years.

Diya

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เขียนโดย namphung ที่ 09:26 0 ความคิดเห็น

[ISG:94089] Re: IL&F INVESTMENT MANAGERS LTD - MUST BUY.BSE Code: - 511208

Stock closed at 206.

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Kirti Shukla <kirtishu@gmail.com> wrote:

As per bse data it is closed today at 104.24.

pl correct me if i m wrong.

with regards...

kirti

On 3/19/08, SHEESHAIK <sheeshaik@gmail.com> wrote:
IL&FS Investment Managers rose 11.81% to Rs 212.10 at 14:07 IST on BSE after the firm said its board will meet on 1 April 2008 to consider issuing bonus shares.

Dear Members,

IL&F INVESTMENT MANAGERS LTD - MUST BUY.BSE Code: - 511208

CMP: - 220

Detail of investment argument i would give whnever i get free.

It is Multibagger. Remember it is not IL&FS Investmart Ltd.

Regards,

Intelligent Invester.

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เขียนโดย namphung ที่ 09:24 0 ความคิดเห็น

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TOPIC: Asian Indices - Wed 19 Mar 2008
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:00 am
From: performance

Wed 19 Mar 2008 Asian Indices

Nikkei 225 (^N225)
Close: 12260.44
Change: +296.28 +2.48%

Hang Seng (^HSI)
Close: 21866.939
Change: +482.33 +2.26%

Shanghai Composite (000001.SS)
Close: 3761.605
Change: +92.708 +2.53%

Dow Jones Shanghai (^DJSH)
Close: 409.35
Change: +13.27 +3.35%

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TOPIC: JJT has no lay reports or seduction advice, so he posts flames
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:10 am
From: Alex

in article 8badnZfuSazFZX3anZ2dnUVZ_ryqnZ2d@pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@cybersheet.com wrote on 3/19/08 7:26 AM:

> Tsk. Poor BOY.
>
> Anyone can see from his fixation on me and the tone of his posts what women
> would think of someone like that, so his lack of on-topic content is hardly
> a shock.
>

Says the fr00t l00p with no lay reports or useful seduction advice.

Guess your lack of on-topic content is hardly a shock either.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:26 am
From: It's that guy again...

>Tsk. Poor BOY.

Please take your homo-erotic child fantasy elsewhere, child molester.

>Anyone can see from his fixation on me and the tone of his posts what women
>would think of someone like that, so his lack of on-topic content is hardly
>a shock.

ANYONE can see that I'm in a long term relationship, with a woman YOU are
deathly afraid of, have always posted I have no interest in anything else
then having YOU back up YOUR decade of threats to sue me over my posting
YOUR OWN words. You have lied about having a "..lawyer in my hometown.."
ready to sue me, about many many MANY "..fuckin' lawsuits.." you were about
to file against me, while all the time, you know where I live, my PH#, etc.

I DID beat you in court when you claimed me as "..john doe #17.." and the
court (who knew how to contact me) called you an "..inexcusable failure.."
because you failed to serve those you KNEW how to contact all the while.

Last month you (again) said a lawsuit was being filed against me..

...where is it, I'll (again) ID my self to the court right away.

In the meantime, I'll keep re-posting your suicidal, child molesting,
hate monging, faggot words right back at you, because I know it upsets
you to face your own past. BTW, how is the suicide going..any luck yet?

JJTj

------------------------------------

(for those of you off drugs, 11:11 (AM or PM, in any time zone) is the OFFICAL
"ray-ality" time zone. U see 11:11 (digital or analog..it takes time, but
you look forward to it)....and all us big bad RICO villains can stop, laugh,
& KNOW that elsewhere on this planet, others RIGHT NOW are also laughing..)

ANYONE who has ever laughed at Gordon Roy Parker (AKA Ray Gordon) can join in !

Set ya cell phone for it..call yer friends.. Do it via an Atomic Clock
setting for EST, and it's like lining up all da planets.. I am Jupiter..

--------------------------------------

From: sotwareg@mindspring.com (Ray Gordon)
Subject: Time to cast a spell
Date: 16 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <3496fd63.45890883@news.mindspring.com>
X-Server-Date: 16 Dec 1997 22:21:43 GMT
Reply-To: sotwareg@mindspring.com
Organization: ICN
Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics

I am a psychic. When I can't find justice any other way, I cast a
spell. Here's another one:

I command the heavens to make this true: Any person who criticizes me
from this point forward will experience the following:

1. If they have a child in gymnastics, that child will suffer a
paralyzing injury in the gym;

2. If they do not have a child in gymnastics, their favorite gymnast
will suffer the same injury.

I do this not to wish injury on anyone, but to tell the Gods that I
have had enough of this criticism, and that if my request in the name
of God for people to begin looking at both sides of this story is not
heeded, then I will ask God to teach a lesson to those who ignore my
request.

Just so you know, I made a similar request regarding Tabitha a year
ago, she ignored it, and her son wound up ill in the hospital for the
entire summer. That is when she made her false allegations against me
which have led to what you see here.

Anyone else want to try me? If I turn out to be right, you will have
no one to blame but yourselves.

Don't mess with a psychic.

-----------------------------------------

From: ask...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Guess what? Ray won't talk to me!!! =)
Date: 1998/03/19
Message-ID: <6esj9d$7a...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics

As for being her Number One Fan, I claimed that title during our blowout
over Bela. What's not to love about a 13 year-old with the intensity of
Madonna? Couldn't help it.

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> Path:
> sn-us!sn-xit-01!supernews.com!feeder.qis.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!how
> land.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey
> 04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 56
> X-Admin: n...@aol.com
> From: iteachhypno...@aol.come4menow (Ray Gordon)
> Newsgroups: alt.romance
> Date: 20 Feb 2001 00:04:52 GMT
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com

> Subject: AMAZING PROOF WOMEN ARE WHORES
> Message-ID: <20010219190452.02121.00000937@ng-bd1.aol.com>
> Xref: sn-us alt.romance:325108
>
>
> I go online as a female secretary looking for work again.
>
>
> Idiot lawyer solicits me for a job.
>
>
> Gives me his REAL name.
>
>
> His pic.
>
>
> The name of his firm.
>
>
> The name of the previous secretary he "wore out" before firing her.
>
>
> And a TON of other evidence which I could EASILY use to verify his
> identity.
>
>
> I thought about all the "Defenders of women" and how SILENT they'd be
> EVEN IF I posted all the evidence here.
>
>
> Never mind that he SOLICITED A PROSTITUTE in addition to
> discriminating.
>
>
> This is a very good-looking man. Very successful.
>
>
> What you folks would call a "winner."
>
>
> I wonder what God would call him?
>
>
> Of course, people would STILL say it's MY attitude, even in the face
> of evidence like this.
>
>
> Nothing makes me suicidal more quickly than to see this up front.
>
>
> I believe suicide should be a fundamental legal right.
>
>
> Suicide on demand.
>
>
> My body, my choice.
>
>
> A lawsuit can make that a reality. If I win, EVERY person gets the
> right to end their lives at any time for any reason.
>
>
> I think of all the neurotic women who would go off the deep end at
> some point under that law and how the gene pool would self-cleanse so
> quickly.
>
>
> I do have pity for the people who know these truths and ignore them,
> and what God will do to them for trying to blame me and for ignoring
> what happens to "women" while pretending to be their defenders.
>
>
> DISCLAIMER: I left USENET but have returned as "one-way Ray." I post
> but refuse to respond to people who can't handle truth about women and
> who feel compelled to lie about me.

------------------------------

------------- Gordon Roy Parker on the day of 9/11 ------------------

>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Not
>>a one."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

>>"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not
>>live in or work in because of illegal behavior. I hope those
>>who swiped my ability to live there enjoy the message they got from GOD
>>today.........."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

>>"In that building existed little more than a bunch of companies
>>which hire "office whores" and the like. I have no sympathy for
>>employment discriminators, and if someone had to die in this attack, I
>>couldn't think of a better group of people for the terrorists to pick."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

>>"Now you know what it's like to see your horrors mocked the way mine
>>have been. That's not mental illness, that's a political message,
>>apparently delivered quite brilliantly."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Their own
>>evil is what prevented me from being among the dead, and which added the
>>"Unknown Office Whore" to their numbers because god forbid some loser
>>executive would have to hire a man.Those corporations could have hired
>>me, put me to work in that building, let me live in NYC, and experience
>>all of the fun that's going on up there now."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11

-----------------------

** You admitted (see below) you ".wished."
** a child would die, JUST to get revenge on
** her mother for her crime of ".loving you."

SO, the question is, Mr. Gordon Roy Parker:

".how old was Michelle's daughter Cierra
when you "wished" she would die, and if
your "wish" could come true, what would
you "wish" to happen to her.. ?????? ."

...Usenet records seem to note her age at 6 or 7...

..again..PLEASE..for the record... Tell us all..

Does this refresh your memory, Mr. Parker..?

>>Path: news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
>>Cc: caveman21@nni.com
>>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:58:08 -0400
>>Subject: Ray Takes FULL RESPONSIBLITY For The Michelle Mistake
>>Message-ID: <20000628.075839.-285523.10.The______Seduction_________Library@juno.com>
>>X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11
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>>Newsgroups: alt.romance
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>>WARNING: If Oedipus, Krusty or Tusky respond to this message in any way,
>>I will return to ASF immediately. If they want me off that newsgroup
>>they can stay the hell out of my threads.

>>Read up. I post this not for myself, because I don't care what people
>>think of me. I post this for my METHOD, because it's being destroyed by
>>attacks on its creator.

>>I am going to clear the record on a few things here:

>>1. I DID wish death on Michelle's daughter Cierra. I did so in an
>>attempt to snap her back to reality after she had used others' defamation
>>of me as leverage to get me to want her. Why did I "hurt" her? I DID
>>NOT TALK TO HER. That's correct: my crime with Michelle was not falling
>>back in love with her after she had fallen in love with me for four
>>months, IMing me constantly, E-mailing me constantly, BEGGING me to love
>>her the way I "loved" "Dominique" (these two are in quotes because I
>>neither loved her nor necessarily knew her).

>>2. Wishing death on someone is not a crime. The words were spoken in
>>anger, after MONTHS of provocation

Main Entry: mo·lest
Pronunciation: m&-'lest
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French molester, from
Latin molestare, from molestus burdensome, annoying; akin to
Latin moles mass

1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile
intent or injurious effect

2 : to make annoying sexual advances to; especially : to
force physical and usually sexual contact on

- mo·les·ta·tion /"mO-"les-'tA-sh&n, "mä-, -l&s-/ noun
- mo·lest·er /m&-'les-t&r/ noun

..U gonna go there! ?"

Fuz 'da Bun: "..I'm gonna spill me some beans ! : "

ROUND 'em UP !!

Well we're ASF shilling..
Big Bad RICO villains
And we scam everyone, ya know
(that sounds like us ? )

We sing about seduction
And we sing about gurlz
as we put on a little show
(yeah, ca-ching! Kiss me, hun..)

We have all kind-a girls
we live out all kind-a thrills
But the 1 thrill we WANNA known
Is the thrill of that true fame
When you get your real name
On the docket with Gordon Roy

Gordon Roy
"..fucking court.." gonna call out our names..
Parker-boy !
"..fucking judge.." gonna make him explain..
ROY !
Nothing ever gonna be the same..
On the docket with Gordon Roy

He got all of his "..inexcusable failures.."
and that ruins all of his wet dreams..<sad>
He got his own collection of dollies
Re-Writing his "ray-world" dreams...

Now it's not a crime, cause he's so blind..,
But U gotta say it's pretty lame..
unLike the thrill of the true fame
When you get your real name
On the docket with Gordon Roy

Gordon Roy
He's gonna throw all his Meds away....
Parker-boy !
Post in Drag all night and day....
ROY !
But he'll have to fully explain ..
On the docket with Gordon Roy

mASF: hey, we know all about his failures..!!!

(spoken)

JJT: "..hey, I'm John Doe #17 !!!"

THE WORLD:: Counter sue his ass, Google !!!..

He dreams of underaged gymnasts "..sexual performers.."
& that fuels up his wet dreams: "..if it were legal."
He's got a made up hooker named, um, 'hellen'..
Earning money to get him laid... ha ha ha ha ha

He gets all the jobs $10k n failures provide.,
Still he whines cause he's all alone..
Yet we keep gettin' richer,
..still he can't get our signature
On the docket with Gordon Roy

Gordon Roy
He'll make all the "cunts" and "whores" pay...
Parker-boy !
"..if it were legal.." children, he would slay !..
Gordon ROY !
I just wonder what the Judge will say....
On the docket with Gordon Roy

Talking:
I don't know why we ain't in no courtroom, baby!
He's an "..inexcusable failure.." at it, ya know..!
I ain't kiddin' you man, we'd make great defendants..
I mean, I can see it right now--we be up front,
Oh, we be laughing so hard......beautiful!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 6:17 am
From: "Seeker1@example.com"

"Ray Gordon" - who insists on calling himself "creator of the pivot" -
despite the fact that his own words prove otherwise - wrote:

even Mr Parker's change of the title line is ironic:
Re: JJT has no lay reports or seduction advice, so he posts flames

because, posting flames is 97% of what *you* do, Mr Parker.

> Tsk. Poor BOY.
>
> Anyone can see from his fixation on me

Whereas *your* fixation on the individuals you vilify in *every* post is
a mature, healthy occupation ?

> and the tone of his posts what women would think of someone like that,

As opposed to what women think of someone like you - given the things
you have said about "women" in general.

The tone of a lot of your material is vehemently anti-woman.

Or are you going to claim that 95% of material posted in your name was
posted by someone else, pretending to be you ?

> so his lack of on-topic content is hardly a shock.

Excuse me, my irony meter exploded.

I sometimes wonder, Mr Parker, whether you understand the meaning of the
words you type. Here is a case in point. You sneer at someone for
posting "off-topic" - meanwhile almost everything *you* ever post is
off-topic for the group in which you post it.

This very thread - a screed about Bear Stearns is "on-topic" for a.s.f ?

You cross-posted this thread to a.s.f. , or did you not notice that ?
Or, do you just pretend to not notice ?

Is that the plan ?
Cross-post to multiple newsgroups, but pretend to not notice.
That way, when you get replies from the people in more than one
newsgroup, you can loudly claim - once again - to be a victim of what
*you* call "cyber-stalking" ?

PS:
I notice that you keep ignoring the open question:

How can you justify styling yourself as "the creator of the pivot" in
your marketing, when even your own words - in the .pdf you link to in
your sig block, no less - prove you to be nothing of the sort ?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:13 am
From: "vrditxufnbjy@yahoo.com"

Do you want to make money? To drive fast sportscars and live the
luxurious life you always
dreamed off before hitting the grave? I`m sure you do but the
question is what are you willing
to do for it. Let`s face it you probably tried affiliate marketing,
website promotion,
multilevel marketing and even some more exotic things.
And in the end nothing worked.. the same applied to me.. do you know
why we failed? Because we
are LAZY.

Professional marketers spent years in tears of frustration till they
got the hang of it and
eventually started to see results. And they wanted it bad enough..
some probably sacrificed
their social lives in the process
I dont know about you but I DID NOT want to spend years in exercising
patience nor quit watching
soap operas on tv or dating chicks ;)
I WANT TO MAKE MONEY NOW.. so.. what if i could show you a way to
start making money within the
next HOURS?

Raking in thousands of dollars each and every month?
without: Promotion of ANY kind?
without: Any knowledge or any skills at all?
without: a stupid template website?
without: the need for long working hours?

Something that you start and then it produces money on autopilot? Your
only Job is to hit the "withdraw"
button on a regular basis to cash in your earnings.
Get your exclusive membership in the Ultimate income club and laugh
heartily about people that work a
regular job.
http://automoneyrop.blogspot.com/#

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:16 am
From: jimmy

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:03:58 -0700 (PDT), "BuffettHater@gmail.com"
<BuffettHater@gmail.com> wrote:

>A
>> I was thinking financials but this oughta be interesting. What do you
>> think about Canadian banks? Have you checked them out at all?
>>
>> thanks
>
>BMO good yeild, but it does have sub prime exposure.

Yeah, BMO seems to be the most volatile because of that. My fear is
that dividends might be cut making the stock even less attractive.
That may go for all the big Cdn. banks. I am thinking seriously about
getting into BNS though.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:30 am
From: Nomen Nescio

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1263677258215075609

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:34 am
From: Doobie Keebler

There has been a huge amount of rubbish posted about short selling and
BSC, not the least of which is this silly nonsense posted recently by
Comix.

On Mar 18, 1:28 am, com...@webtv.net wrote:
> bear stearns was a brokerage...they were not a bank
> and
> there was never any "run" on any bank going on.
>
> these are all short seller lies by scum who short indexes and
> these related stocks...

Comix, pay attention:
Bear Stearns is an investment bank, and there was a run on it.

That is so, according to Bear Stearns head of risk management for
Europe and Asia:

``It's publicly known that a lot of individuals in the company own a
good part of the company so we clearly believe there was value in the
organization, but when there is a run on the bank there's nothing you
can do. I guess we have to grin and bear it and move on to a strong
partnership with JPMorgan.''

quote by Mr. Kanwardeep Ahluwalia,
Bear Stearns head of risk management for Europe and Asia
Bloomberg Television March 17, 2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&refer=home&sid=asNrIu2S3odw

(note: If this gentleman's name is any indication he's likely of
Indian ancestry and has brown skin; you may expect to hear more
nonsense from S4B's like comix that he's a terrorist or that he is
socialist scum etc etc ad nauseum.)

Well, they don't call him Comix for nothing. Such nonsense is comical,
but not nearly as comical as the notion that short selling is for
'scum', that bearishness is unpatriotic, and that buying DXD is for
socialists.

However, short selling makes an important contribution to the market.
It provides liquidity, drives down overpriced securities, and
generally increases the efficiency of the markets.
http://www.investopedia.com/university/shortselling/shortselling4.asp

In fact, Marvin Pierce Bush, the youngest brother of President George
W. Bush is a short seller.

Currently, Marvin Bush is a Co-Founder and Managing Partner at the
investment firm Winston Capital Management, located in McLean,
Virginia. He has portfolio manager duties at Winston.

From the Company website:

"Winston's hedge fund products seek to provide individual and
institutional investors with diversified exposure to hedge funds.
Winston manages several funds of funds, which are multi-manager
portfolios of hedge funds. We focus exclusively on fundamental,
research-driven "long/short equity" hedge fund strategies."

http://www.winstonpartners.com/investments.html

If short selling is for 'scum' then why does President Bush's family
do it?

.
.d

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:38 am
From: JerkTerrenceChoong@gmail.com

It appears that these folks, Shinjiru, not only run an unethical
service, but are nothing more than dishonest highwaymen. They have
hijacked my data and refused to pay monies owing me for no apparent
supportable reason. I will post more if they do not get the message!

Pictures, Images, Photos of Shinjiru (Shinjiru.com) CEO Terence Choong
terence@shinjiru.com.my
http://terence-choong.notlong.com/

Pictures, Images, Photos of Shinjiru (Shinjiru.com) Technical Manager
Shaun Lim
shaun@shinjiru.com.my
http://shaun-lim-shinjiru.notlong.com/

terence@shinjiru.com.my
legal@shinjiru.com.my
shaun@shinjiru.com.my
kenichi@shinjiru.com
sales@shinjiru.com
support@247livesupport.biz
billing@shinjiru.com.my

Domain Name: SHINJIRU.COM

Registrant:
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd.
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd. (billing@shinjiru.com)
19-2 Wisma Laxton
Jalan Desa Taman Desa
Off Old Klang Road
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,58100
MY
Tel. +603.79871191
Fax. +603.79872191

Creation Date: 21-Jan-2000
Expiration Date: 21-Jan-2009

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.shinjiru.com
ns.shinjiru.com

Administrative Contact:
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd.
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd. (billing@shinjiru.com)
19-2 Wisma Laxton
Jalan Desa Taman Desa
Off Old Klang Road
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,58100
MY
Tel. +603.79871191
Fax. +603.79872191

Technical Contact:
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd.
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd. (billing@shinjiru.com)
19-2 Wisma Laxton
Jalan Desa Taman Desa
Off Old Klang Road
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,58100
MY
Tel. +603.79871191
Fax. +603.79872191

Billing Contact:
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd.
Shinjiru Technology Sdn. Bhd. (billing@shinjiru.com)
19-2 Wisma Laxton
Jalan Desa Taman Desa
Off Old Klang Road
Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur,58100
MY
Tel. +603.79871191
Fax. +603.79872191

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:47 am
From: Blash

Lawyerkill@aol.com wrote on 3/19/08 5:22 AM:

> I like Isaac Asimov better, but Clarke wrote a lot of good books. Now
> some M.I.S. writers here can compete with him in writing fiction, he
> was still one of the good ones.

A few years ago, my ex-sec'y visited me from Sri Lanka where she was
living with her hubby......she saw a 1st edition of 2001 on my bookshelf and
slipped it into her bag(unnoticed by me).......3 weeks later, it came back
in the mail with a few nice paragraphs on the flypage & signed by
Clarke......He had been living as an ex-pat in Colombo for many years.......

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:57 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

Give a home, free, gratis, no fees other than closing costs to
every member of the armed forces active for over 2 years,
would take care of the enlistment problem too.

With all the extra troops, attack south america.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 5:59 am
From: bob36swmla@webtv.net (bob wald)

who here thinks the brokers made alot calling in margins after bsc fell
to $4 THE FIRST DAY? demanding immediate payment....
buying peoples shares before they had a chance to recover alil.......

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 6:47 am
From: Blash

bob wald wrote on 3/19/08 8:59 AM:

> who here thinks the brokers made alot calling in margins after bsc fell
> to $4 THE FIRST DAY? demanding immediate payment....
> buying peoples shares before they had a chance to recover alil.......
>

How does a broker make money on margin calls???
What do you mean when you say "buying peoples shares before they had a
chance to recover alil"??? Brokers SELL the stock if margin calls are not
met........

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:13 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

> How does a broker make money on margin calls???
> What do you mean when you say "buying peoples shares before they had a
> chance to recover alil"??? Brokers SELL the stock if margin calls are not
> met........

What a great country this is, when a guy with no knowledge of credit
or margin, with no concept of finance or procedure can be one of the
largest shareholders of GCOG.

After a margin call, the borker sells at market, they earn the commish
and market forces dictate the rest. BSC NEVER traded at $2, closest
it came was $2.88 and that was only for a fifteen minute period.

Todays market has the following fundamentals which cause this stuff,
too many shorts chasing too few ops & covering way quick before
they get their own margin calls.

IMHO there is no or little $$$ left on the short side of anything, you
need
to study, watch and play the eventual short squeeze, just like the
mar-
ket overall.

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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 6:24 am
From: "Frithiof Andreas Jensen"

<starcade@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:ee109af9-f78d-4de6-a097-62095204202e@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> So, in your opinion, mass defaulting is a good thing??
>
> Not necessarily saying good or bad, but you'd be about the first
> person I've heard of to go down that road.

I do think mass default is a good thing. First because it is nice to see
people act rationally for a change and second because defaults will bring
risk back into the investment game. Once risk is back then real interest
rates and decent dividends for investors come back - in former times one
would expect dividends well above bond rates because of the risk in stocks.
The last decade or even more investors got nothing apart from asset
inflation.

PS:
I also liked the Serbs burning the US embassy while the Sebian police
watched with beer and sausages at the ready - again because *why* should
people just bend over for "The Man"? Why is the US so keen on a muslim
mafia-state in Europe? To weaken the competition or to provide a way for the
Afghan heroin??

>
> Mike

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TOPIC: Follow through day in stock market
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 6:49 am
From: scotttrade@aol.com

Yesterday's price action in the stock market indicates at least a
short term bottom is in place. Whether this rally leads to a new bull
market or is just a bear market rally will not be known until either
the old highs are taken out or the recent lows are taken out.
However, I would suggest that based on the price action of the last
week, it is safe to at least dip your toes in the water. For more
thoughts, check out kungfutrader.com.

Scott

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TOPIC: Early Performers Wed 03/19/08
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:00 am
From: performance

Wednesday 03/19/2008

Top 10 Early Advancing and Declining Stocks by %Chg.:

Sym. Co. Time Price Chg. %Chg. Vol.

NYSE: adv./decl./unch. 1,575/801/63

GBB Ipath_Gbp/Usd_Exchan 9:37AM_ET 104.68 +52.34 +100.00% 200
TMA-PF Thornburg_Mtg_Pfd_F 9:38AM_ET 9.4699 +1.1999 +14.51% 94,400
XRM Xerium_Technologies 9:39AM_ET 1.315 +0.165 +14.35% 102,900
LNN Lindsay_Corporation 9:39AM_ET 84.40 +8.13 +10.66% 5,600
CMO Capstead_Mtg_Cp_New 9:39AM_ET 13.215 +1.225 +10.22% 416,570
FRE Freddie_Mac 9:39AM_ET 28.67 +2.65 +10.18% 3,644,645
TMA-PC Thornburg_Mtg_Pfd_C 9:39AM_ET 7.8499 +0.7099 +9.94% 26,200
FNM Fannie_Mae 9:39AM_ET 30.99 +2.77 +9.82% 6,591,966
WAL Western_Alnc_Bancorp 9:38AM_ET 12.63 +1.07 +9.26% 32,000
NCC Natl_City_Cp 9:39AM_ET 9.52 +0.80 +9.17% 1,373,391
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IMB Indymac_Bncp_Inc 9:39AM_ET 4.76 -0.29 -5.74% 221,250
TCL Tata_Communications_ 9:39AM_ET 27.74 -1.81 -6.13% 22,200
ZNH China_South_Air_Ltd 9:38AM_ET 36.24 -2.41 -6.24% 7,800
TI-A Telecom_Sav_New 9:38AM_ET 15.14 -1.13 -6.95% 1,300
TI Telecom_Itl_New 9:38AM_ET 19.37 -1.48 -7.10% 7,200
CCU Clear_Channel_Com 9:39AM_ET 33.02 -2.78 -7.77% 2,114,300
DT Deutsche_Tele_Ag_Ads 9:39AM_ET 16.433 -1.567 -8.71% 345,500
DOD Elements_Dogs_Of_Dow 9:30AM_ET 8.01 -1.01 -11.20% 2,500
AGP Amerigroup_Corp 9:39AM_ET 27.78 -4.08 -12.81% 180,800
TMA Thornburg_Mtg_Inc 9:39AM_ET 2.58 -0.40 -13.42% 9,621,437

AMEX: adv./decl./unch. 259/245/35

LB La_Barge_Inc 9:38AM_ET 12.59 +2.09 +19.90% 13,200
PAE Peace_Arch_Ent_Grp_B 9:38AM_ET 1.15 +0.10 +9.52% 27,000
PNS Pinnacle_Data_Sys_In 9:38AM_ET 1.42 +0.12 +9.23% 15,700
SNR Sunair_Elec_Inc 9:36AM_ET 1.99 +0.14 +7.57% 5,000
EZY Wisdomtree_Low_P/E 9:39AM_ET 44.56 +2.82 +6.76% 17,200
URZ Uranerz_Energy_Corp 9:37AM_ET 2.52 +0.12 +5.00% 24,300
FXP Proshares_Ultrashort 9:39AM_ET 104.84 +4.73 +4.72% 199,927
RAE Rae_Systems_Inc 9:38AM_ET 2.01 +0.09 +4.69% 65,500
RYF Rydex_S&P_Equal_Weig 9:35AM_ET 36.28 +1.61 +4.64% 800
EBA Ms_Ebay_Cs_9%_Sparqs 9:37AM_ET 13.91 +0.61 +4.59% 5,000
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DNE Dune_Energy_Inc 9:36AM_ET 1.67 -0.08 -4.57% 4,200
PAL North_American_Palla 9:39AM_ET 6.39 -0.31 -4.63% 149,020
ONT On2_Technologies_Inc 9:39AM_ET 0.9908 -0.0492 -4.73% 97,800
EGR Commerce_Energy_Gp 9:37AM_ET 1.18 -0.06 -4.84% 23,300
DNN Denison_Mines_Cp_New 9:38AM_ET 8.04 -0.42 -4.96% 86,600
PLG Platinum_Group_Metal 9:35AM_ET 2.88 -0.16 -5.26% 22,300
NG Novagold_Resources_I 9:39AM_ET 8.34 -0.51 -5.76% 243,400
OZN Orezone_Res_Inc 9:38AM_ET 1.34 -0.15 -10.07% 94,676
ILI Interleukin_Genetics 9:36AM_ET 1.30 -0.15 -10.34% 25,100
KUN China_Shenghuo_Pharm 9:37AM_ET 3.12 -0.39 -11.11% 172,150

NASD: adv./decl./unch. 1,570/832/111

CAMT Camtek_Ltd 9:38AM_ET 1.50 +0.41 +37.11% 80,650
ATHX Athersys_Inc 9:30AM_ET 4.49 +0.97 +27.56% 2,000
TDSC 3D_Systems_Cp 9:44AM_ET 15.95 +2.24 +16.34% 8,500
CLN Celsion_Corp 9:38AM_ET 5.58 +0.78 +16.25% 200
MMPI Meruelo_Maddux_Prope 9:44AM_ET 3.91 +0.54 +16.02% 18,630
EXPEZ Expedia_Inc_Warrant 9:39AM_ET 9.82 +1.26 +14.72% 194
EFOI Energy_Focus_Inc 9:39AM_ET 2.85 +0.35 +14.00% 18,400
CAMD Cal_Micro_Devices 9:44AM_ET 3.45 +0.42 +13.86% 41,800
AMOT Allied_Motion_Tech 9:37AM_ET 4.96 +0.56 +12.73% 4,044
NMRX Numerex_Cp_Cl_A_(P 9:41AM_ET 7.03 +0.78 +12.48% 8,300
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COMS 3Com_Cp 9:44AM_ET 2.49 -0.37 -12.94% 2,303,018
PEIX Pacific_Ethanol_Inc 9:44AM_ET 4.30 -0.65 -13.13% 161,559
PBHC Pathfinder_Bancp 9:37AM_ET 10.10 -1.69 -14.33% 1,100
NWMO New_Motion,_Inc. 9:44AM_ET 4.11 -0.79 -16.12% 12,858
KTCC Key_Tronic_Cp 9:43AM_ET 2.45 -0.48 -16.38% 103,034
RADN Radyne_Corporation 9:44AM_ET 7.00 -1.57 -18.32% 77,197
SGRP Spar_Group_Inc 9:40AM_ET 1.14 -0.29 -20.28% 2,100
SINT Si_Intl_Inc 9:43AM_ET 19.5101 -4.9899 -20.37% 45,437
INAP Internap_Ntwk_Svcs 9:44AM_ET 4.73 -1.39 -22.71% 370,769
CCOW Capital_Corp_West 9:44AM_ET 5.27 -5.39 -50.56% 91,180

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TOPIC: Silda Wall Spitzer/Eliot Spitzkreig killed his wife and family
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:07 am
From: " krp"

"Avenger" <avenger@avengers.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> Females reach their expiration date at 30, some earlier. She's 50,
>>>>>>>> older than Eliot.
>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. Little boy you have LOADS to learn. A woman doesn't begin
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> become interesting till they are 40.
>>
>>>>>> Go eat a spam sandwich loser. At 40 females are grey,wrinkled and
>>>>>> boring. Yes, even more boring than when they were young, believe it
>>>>>> or not,
>>
>>>>> You sound pretty boring yourself.
>>
>>>> Oh you know what this guy is. A 50 something "CAT" who pops a half a
>>>> dozen Viagra before bedding his 18 year old honey, then mounts her for
>>>> all of 3 minutes
>>
>>> 3 minutes is long enough for a normal female. Of course, you wouldn't
>>> know that with a 50yo chicano with a pussy the size of the Grand Canyon.
>>
>> Keep telling yourself that 3 minutes is all a woman wants.

> Who cares what a female wants. Only about 10% can orgasm from sex anyway
> and they do it fast. The other 90% wouldn't cum if you stuck a jackhammer
> in her pussy for an hour lol

Sorry to hear about YOUR sexual problems. POOR BOY! Classy chicks you
hang around. Where do they park their Harleys?

>> You have no choice- your YOU 3 minutes is a MARATHON! You have loads to
>> learn about women fella. I have never seen a 50 year old Chicano much
>> less one with a pussy or one that size. My wife is Cuban not MEXICAN and
>> she's FEMALE not male

> How much did you pay this hag to marry you, loser?

Hah ha ha. Nothing my boy. :-)

>>> and rolls off and falls asleep for 2 days. The REASON he can't be
>>>> with a mature woman is that his head is completely empty so as they say
>>>> WATER FINDS ITS OWN LEVEL!
>>
>>> Old hags are are dumber than young girls.
>>
>> If those are YOUR only two choices. I have many other options thanks.
>> What a piss poor sex life you admit to.

> Just imagine an old man like you and still a slave to pussy! Not young
> pussy but 50 yo pussy! haha

Slave to pussy? That sounds more like you. You are paranoid as shit
about it which is why you have to chase CHILDREN. Can't get a woman your own
age.
Much less KEEP one.

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TOPIC: Visa IPO Charges Ahead, Raising $17.9B
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:19 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

The bushmen of the kalahari are being issued visa cards right
now to make up for volumes.

Can't short V via ameritrade, short facility not known ???

What a cute setup tried to enter short sale at 60.50 but
again, the system wins. they moved heaven and earth to
price this IPO & just remember, heaven gets angry.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:35 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

On Mar 19, 9:19 am, "BuffettHa...@gmail.com" <BuffettHa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The bushmen of the kalahari are being issued visa cards right
> now to make up for volumes.
>
> Can't short V via ameritrade, short facility not known ???
>
> What a cute setup tried to enter short sale at 60.50 but
> again, the system wins. they moved heaven and earth to
> price this IPO & just remember, heaven gets angry.

Got the short off $3 lower. Lets see how a stock performs without
a huge number of shorts to manipulate (till noon anyways, lol)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:27 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

Toldayso. they moved heaven and earth to price the visa IPO.

IMHO the only thing levitating this market is the confused and
skittish shorts listening to CNBC & buying SDS & QID in hope
of recovering the huge losses MrMarket has shamed them with.

Don't encourage shorting, its the squeeze stupid. And, i have
noticed that any day you do not post ends up down by 350 pts.
We will have to silence the fraud ???

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TOPIC: Visa, Visa, Visa and the Jets
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:33 am
From: "BuffettHater@gmail.com"

Finally got my short off on Visa at $57.75 after having to
direct the short thru a human at TDAm and paying a much
higher commish.
Discount borker, discount nothing.

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TOPIC: Earn money from Google.com
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:42 am
From: Santhosh1992

Google.com is not only a search engine but also does webadvertising
through websites and blogs.Lakhs of common people are earning hundreds
of dollars through online advertising.It also has other products like
chatting,google earth,google talk etc.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:50 am
From: "Bill Reid"

jonathan <maatschj@write.instead.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill Reid" <hormelfree@happyhealthy.net> wrote in message
> news:Ms_Dj.22159$D_3.15454@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > jonathan <maatschj@write.instead.net> wrote in message
>
> > I'm getting bored...what makes you THINK that these results
> > aren't the result of "luck" rather than design?
>
> Too early to say, but the results have been steadily improving.

What is the significance of the results "steadily improving?"
Have you changed your trade selection criteria?

> Of the five losers, two of them were the very first two trades (-3% each)
> where I was more interested in seeing if the account still worked.
> And a third was a 9% percent loss that was a fluke I believe.
> I bought the stock online as usual, but when I went to sell
> a couple of hours later that day, dear e-trade said the stock
> can only be sold through a broker now, not online anymore.
> Since it was going up too fast.

So you're day-trading a single "rocket ship", probably a low-priced
issue. You've already got a ton of volatility inherent in the stock, which
tends to negate any market out-performance of your short-term results
statistically...

> By the time I got a broker a nice gain turned into the loss.
> The other two losers were 2% each.

I'm assuming that trading gap did not CAUSE the losses, right?

> But 8 out of the 13 winners were 5%, %5, 7%, 10%, 10%, 10%17%,23%.

This sounds like either a penny stock, or maybe Bear Stearns (same
difference)...

> And this is trading while I can only sneek onto the company
> computer for less than an hour a day, and mostly using
> my cell phone for trading. With it's little-bitty fuzzy charts.

So you're using charts for your trade selection criteria, and
nothing else? You're just using a time series of the price data
(and maybe volume), and nothing else?

BTW, this is called "charting" in stock trading (great name!),
and of course traders have been doing it for years. Just using
a time series of price data as trade selection criteria is
generally referred to as "technical analysis" by traders...

> >> The basic idea behind my trading system is outlined
> >> abstractly in the first link....great stuff.
> >
> > I ain't gonna look at it...what's it say?
>
> It says, that under certain dynamical states, all stocks will
> behave in the same way. And (only) at this state, the behavior
> becomes not at all dependent on the specific inner details of the
> company at hand.

This is also the key concept of all "technical analysis", but
the "true believers" will aver ALL future price action can ONLY
be reliably traded based on past price action.

The moth in that particular buttermilk is something like the
sudden near-bankruptcy of a major investment bank, but they
parry that by noting that you can rarely if ever predict stuff
like that anyway (personally, and statistically, I don't agree
with that).

> Also, (only) this dynamic state is defined the
> theoretical point at which volatility and predictability
> converge to /simultaneous/ maximums.

Well, one specific use I make of the "chaotic boundary" (another
name for what you're talking about) is for option trading, which can
be quite profitable if you can predict increases/decreases in volatility.
So I have been using some very specific techniques related
to what you're talking about for about 18 years now...

> These are some of the key properties of what is called
> The Edge of Chaos. You already know the basic idea
> but probably don't realize it's potential.

<John McLaughlin>WRROOOONNNGGG!!!!</John McLaughlin>

> A cloud, while a cloud, stands persistanly poised at the
> transition point between water and vapor. It's at the
> Edge of Chaos. What happens if the temp or humidity
> changes even a bit? The cloud suddenly becomes....either
> water or vapor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, things fly apart, the center cannot hold...

> A very dramatic yet predictable change that occurs
> in the very same way every time, regardless of the
> nature of the system. Living, physical or even emotional.

I like how crazy people get when their stock trading schemes
don't pan out...which is of course part of the "chaos" of the
market.

> The trick is to find a chart that is at this delicate transition point.

Can't you parse out the condition using just the price data
alone? That's what I do, but I also have the capability to "read"
charts for "patterns" algorithmically if need be...in any case,
to either rigorously test or most profitably utilize your
"discovery", you need to be able to apply it to tens of
thousands of past/future charts quickly, the way only a
computer program can do it...

> Drive a system just far enough from equilibruim, and they can act
> like a flock of birds when driven by good news.
> Or thunderstorms when the news is gloomy.

I liked the rats in college. If they got a reward for pressing
the green button, they would press the green button more and
more, and if they got a punishment for pressing the red button,
they would press the red button less and less.

And if you just randomly gave out rewards and punishments
for pressing either button, they would go crazy, and begin posting
all kinds of racist idiotic hair-brained contradictory conspiracy
theoried stock trading strategies on Usenet...

> Either way, dramatic yet predictable change takes
> place at or near either extremes in possibility.
> Whether a bubble bursting or a company teeteriing
> on the brink of disaster. Exploring the sweet spots
> or transition points of either /extremes/ are where
> it's at.

Been there, done that, made enough money to buy
my own T-shirt. You need to test this a LOT better
than just running a test with your own money, and the
fact that you began "testing" with your own money
without apparently performing back-testing casts
doubt on the rigor of your "research" to come to
this amazing "discovery"...

> >> I think I can claim
> >> to have successfully used Chaos Theory, now called
> >> Complexity Science, in creating a very simple trading system.

See above.

> > Where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right, right in this
> > newsgroup (misc.invest.stocks) from a guy who posted a few
> > times, couldn't back up any of his claims, then disappeared...
>
> That probably would be me, I've been working on this for
> a couple of years.

It was a little longer ago than that, if I recall. But over the years,
all the amazing "discoveries" just kind of blur together, you know...

> I'm finally giving it a test with larger
> sums of money.

Again, how many times have I heard THAT before? Anyway,
nice talkin' to ya...I mean, you do understand that the amount
of money YOU "test" it with has NOTHING to do with any actual
"proof" that the system works, right?

> Eh hum...I finally have larger sums of
> money to test it with...I should say~
> In the past it's tested out about the same.

So DID you actually perform rigorous back-testing, or just
do a little trading and declare "victory"?
> >
> >> I think I've finally done it!!!
> >
> > You THINK?
>
> I'm pretty sure, but ya know, I've been wrong once or twice~

We all have, but in this case there's a way to be pretty much
right the FIRST time, potentially saving you a lot of your hard-earned
dollars...

> > Do you know the difference between "thinking" and "hoping"?
>
> Amount of data.

BINGO!!!! Now apply that concept rigorously, and if it truly
works, "do the right thing", never post here again, make a fortune
in secret!

> The trades so far are only a tease, more than hope
> but less than sure.

From what I can tell, much closer to a "hope"...

> >> Does anyone know of any trading systems using the concepts
> >> of chaos theory?
> >
> > My system draws in part from chaos theory. It most importantly
> > draws from the chaos theory concept of "multiplication of errors",
> > in which very small initial data errors are magnified and prediction
> > becomes well-nigh impossible...hence the name "chaos" theory...
> >
> >> I've looked and haven't found anything
> >> online yet even close.
> >
> > Anything that really "works" isn't going to be widely-disseminated...
>
> Well it should be, in (chaos) theory the more that know, the better
> it will work for everyone.

Maybe you should study just a little bit of physics, look up
the name "Heisenberg", or any type of game theory dealing
with pari-mutuel payoffs, or poker (your chaotic boundary is
the result of what in poker is called players "going on tilt").

If all traders have access to the same information and use
the same strategy to trade the market, much of the potential
profit you can make would disappear. The stock market offers
excellent trading opportunities primarly because of the mistakes
made by other traders.

> Once I'm fat and happy, I'll be more
> detailed. For now I'm sticking with discussing theory only.
> These concepts require some ability to take an idea and run with it.

Tell me about it...it's a friggin' full-time job, that mostly results
in blind alleys, so don't quit your REAL job...

> > How ya feel about genetic algorithms? They're "fun" too...
>
> Nature shows us the process for the best possible solution
> to any problem.

Nature shows us how to wreck the friggin' SuperDome, after
the weatherman "predicts" the storm will not hit New Orleans...but
Lorenz told us 50 years ago why we couldn't predict nature with
anywhere near 100% accuracy...riiiiiight?!??!!

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